Thanks for your 50+ times listening and sharing your finds. I stand enlightened. Here's my listening addition: Of the 10 "Come in she said/ I'll give ya shelter from the storm.", 4 of them have prolonged, drawn out "ya's" . The first is @ about 1:13 and after the incredible phrasing at 1:06, 2nd is @ 2:05-2:06, and then @ 3:47. Hmmm.
yes, yes, yes - and he slightly "bends" a few of them and comes in a step higher (?) on one of them. Hmmm, indeed.
You, by the way, win the prize Charlie gets at the end of Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory for joining me on this. It's really fun, right? Thanks for diving in.
Your post sent me into hypothetical overdrive - only because stuff like this happens all the time: assuming BD’s guitar had no electronics, it was likely mic’d separately from an overhead/eye level vocal mic. The sort of book way to mic a guitar is one at the neck/body junction and one on the soundhole, maybe towards the bridge end. At least the fretboard mic is likely angled to avoid picking up “fretting” noise. I wondered if the various mic stands and whatnot were maybe contacting each other due to artist movement or something. That wouldn’t necessarily have been picked up on headphones, but might show up in the tracks. Dunno, theoretical musing, but your post was thought provoking in lots of ways.
Ok. Next level. The wrong guy clearly wrote this. 😂
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That is really interesting that the noise wouldn’t show up in the headphones. I was assuming sleeve with buttons hitting it. I assumed mic in front of sound hole. I didn’t know they’d mic the fretboard though. Wouldn’t that get you a lot of undesirable finger squeaking?
Yes - that’s why the fretboard mic - which is really just the neck/body juncture mic is a unidirectional mic, and isn’t at 90 degrees to the fretboard, but rather angled fairly acutely toward the soundhole area. Maybe like this but with only one or two of the possible placements used: https://pin.it/6rBXKcf (it won’t let me paste in the graphic or as a link)
Your post was put up at expectingrain.com this morning- this was great to read! I've always heard him sing "noneventful" as well but never really thought that much about it. I was going to dig out my copy of "Lyrics" but I think bobdylan.com uses that book for everything 2002 and before so I checked there and they have it written as "long-forgotten morn" which is obviously not what he's singing. On the first version from "More Blood, More Tracks" (take 2 from the New York sessions- take 5 was the one included on the eventual release) he quite clearly sings "uneventful" - I wonder if things got garbled on the take 5 because of the syllabic similarities of "on" "an" and the "un" of uneventful being repeated in succession. Those words and syllables could easily sound like "on and on" as well. Either way, thanks for listening and writing this piece- I really enjoyed it.
Thanks for your 50+ times listening and sharing your finds. I stand enlightened. Here's my listening addition: Of the 10 "Come in she said/ I'll give ya shelter from the storm.", 4 of them have prolonged, drawn out "ya's" . The first is @ about 1:13 and after the incredible phrasing at 1:06, 2nd is @ 2:05-2:06, and then @ 3:47. Hmmm.
yes, yes, yes - and he slightly "bends" a few of them and comes in a step higher (?) on one of them. Hmmm, indeed.
You, by the way, win the prize Charlie gets at the end of Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory for joining me on this. It's really fun, right? Thanks for diving in.
You're so welcome. Wow, a prize! Thanks, but I don't think I have time to take care of a chocolate shop.
“Impetuous!! Homeric!!”
I’m in awe - but you are correct - I’ll never hear it the same way again!
Ok, I knew you’d be a fellow music nerd. I-V-IV! 😂
LOL ii-, vi-, V, IV, I
Your post sent me into hypothetical overdrive - only because stuff like this happens all the time: assuming BD’s guitar had no electronics, it was likely mic’d separately from an overhead/eye level vocal mic. The sort of book way to mic a guitar is one at the neck/body junction and one on the soundhole, maybe towards the bridge end. At least the fretboard mic is likely angled to avoid picking up “fretting” noise. I wondered if the various mic stands and whatnot were maybe contacting each other due to artist movement or something. That wouldn’t necessarily have been picked up on headphones, but might show up in the tracks. Dunno, theoretical musing, but your post was thought provoking in lots of ways.
Ok. Next level. The wrong guy clearly wrote this. 😂
More:
That is really interesting that the noise wouldn’t show up in the headphones. I was assuming sleeve with buttons hitting it. I assumed mic in front of sound hole. I didn’t know they’d mic the fretboard though. Wouldn’t that get you a lot of undesirable finger squeaking?
Yes - that’s why the fretboard mic - which is really just the neck/body juncture mic is a unidirectional mic, and isn’t at 90 degrees to the fretboard, but rather angled fairly acutely toward the soundhole area. Maybe like this but with only one or two of the possible placements used: https://pin.it/6rBXKcf (it won’t let me paste in the graphic or as a link)
Your post was put up at expectingrain.com this morning- this was great to read! I've always heard him sing "noneventful" as well but never really thought that much about it. I was going to dig out my copy of "Lyrics" but I think bobdylan.com uses that book for everything 2002 and before so I checked there and they have it written as "long-forgotten morn" which is obviously not what he's singing. On the first version from "More Blood, More Tracks" (take 2 from the New York sessions- take 5 was the one included on the eventual release) he quite clearly sings "uneventful" - I wonder if things got garbled on the take 5 because of the syllabic similarities of "on" "an" and the "un" of uneventful being repeated in succession. Those words and syllables could easily sound like "on and on" as well. Either way, thanks for listening and writing this piece- I really enjoyed it.